Cornwall Council's plan to tax the poorest branded 'obscene' - Falmouth Packet

Cornwall Council's plan to tax the poorest branded 'obscene'

7:00am Wednesday 19th December 2012 in News

Cornwall Council's plan to tax the very poorest in the county to help fill a council tax black hole has been branded "obscene" by Secretary of State Eric Pickles.

The council says that the Government announced earlier this year that local authorities would be required to create their own localised council tax support schemes as part of the changes to the national benefits system and at the same time councils were told that the funding for the scheme was being cut by 12.5 per cent. This means that Cornwall faces a shortfall of £6 million at a time of increasing pressures on its budget if it does not make changes to the existing scheme.

Around 53, 815 people in Cornwall currently claim council tax benefit. Under the current means tested scheme people can claim up to 100 per cent of council tax benefit. As the Government has said that pensioners must be protected from a reduction in benefit, any change will affect around 26,729 working age people.

The council says that after considering a range of options, including continuing with the existing 100 per cent scheme and reducing the level of maximum help available to 70 per cent, members of the cabinet have "reluctantly" agreed to support a recommendation that all working age recipients of council tax benefit to pay an additional 25 per cent contribution towards their council tax.

"While we recognise that this recommendation will cause difficulties for some people in Cornwall, the stark truth is that the council does not have the money to pick up the bill for this" said Council Leader Jim Currie.

"We also feel strongly that it is inappropriate to ask local taxpayers to subsidise the national welfare system and so, reluctantly, have no choice but to support the proposal to reduce the maximum entitlement to council tax benefit to 75 per cent".

However Mr Pickles has said that making people on very low incomes pay struck him as "obscene", adding: "I thought it was a singularly unambitious scheme, just taxing people who are in receipt of council tax benefit rather than helping them get into work, dealing with mistakes and fraud."

He added: "Their job is not to tax the poor. It's to help the poor."

He also raised the prospect of ordering councils not to impose council tax charges on the unemployed.

The council says that it was carrying out "detailed research to identify the groups which would be most affected by this proposed change", with Mr Currie saying that officers were working closely with the Citizens Advice Bureaux and the voluntary and independent sector to ensure that information and advice support was provided to the most vulnerable people. The authority is also developing an exceptional hardship fund to support people in the greatest need.

Members of the Cabinet also agreed to monitor the impact of the new scheme and the welfare reforms in general in Cornwall and to provide regular reports to the Government.

The recommendations from the Cabinet will be considered at the meeting of the full Council on January 13, when the final decision will be made.

 

Comments(13)

stupidperson says...
11:36am Tue 18 Dec 12

Must raise the money to pay their wages and expenses . stupidperson

Gill Zella Martin 09 says...
2:23pm Tue 18 Dec 12

Councillors don't get wages they only get allowances and expenses. The sooner they change the cabinet system the better. You cannot get money out of people that they just do not have. Have Cornwall Council not noticed the food banks we have in the county. Gill Zella Martin 09

Gill Zella Martin 09 says...
2:24pm Tue 18 Dec 12

Double the council tax on second homes. Gill Zella Martin 09

Gill Zella Martin 09 says...
2:25pm Tue 18 Dec 12

Means test pensioners. Gill Zella Martin 09

ElevenEleven says...
2:36pm Tue 18 Dec 12

I am not normally the biggest fan of Cornwall Council however they have their hands tied here. How can central government cut the funding for this and then complain when the council pass that on?! I agree with Gill - tax second homes higher. However the council are not currently allowed to do that under current legislation. ElevenEleven

Gill Zella Martin 09 says...
3:32pm Tue 18 Dec 12

I think it is wrong of Mr Pickles to say that Cornwall Council should deal with helping people on council tax benefit get back into work and deal with mistakes and fraud. Some people claiming council tax benefit are working but on a low income, additionally where is all this work? As for fraud, I personally think Cornwall Council does address this issue, they are currently checking on all the claims of single persons council tax discount, and frequently there are reports of benefit fraud including council tax fraud being reported as discovered and dealt with. Does Mr Pickles really have any idea what happens within Cornwall and Cornwall Council. Gill Zella Martin 09

jane-w says...
6:04pm Tue 18 Dec 12

I think houses where they are let out to students should be charged business rates as many people do make a living out of renting these houses yet because there are often up to 6 or more students living in them they pay no council tax its disgusting!! Means testing is the only way. I was on council tax benefits and often had unexpected visits from the council to check on me. The trouble is too many people are too clever at hiding what money they do have. jane-w

juwhite says...
6:08pm Tue 18 Dec 12

What gets me is the amount of people claiming the single allowance who have the money to pay their council tax - why just because you live in your house alone should you be entitled to a discount if you live in millionaires row?? I know a woman who lives alone can afford to pay without discount yet has this and gets the care for her husband paid despite been very wealthy only because she hides her money well. And yes I have notified the authorities. juwhite

Gill Zella Martin 09 says...
8:05pm Tue 18 Dec 12

I used to claim council tax benefit for being on a low income which I still am, however in accordance with the 'capital' rules, when my circumstances changed slightly simply because I moved,(even though the money is now needed for home maintenance) I notified them and requested my benefit was stopped. I never had any visits from the council unless I was out when they came, they would have been quite welcome though I have never had anything to hide. I agree with jane-w some people do hide what money they have and do not declare it. Also agree with juwhite it should all be means tested. Gill Zella Martin 09

Gill Zella Martin 09 says...
8:43pm Tue 18 Dec 12

The government have already screwed half my money out of me because I can only use half of the national insurance contributions that my late husband paid for years if I live long enough to claim a pension that is. So he paid all that money for years for nothing, and I will be left with a pension shortfall. So they may as well stitch me up with council tax as well. Gill Zella Martin 09

molesworth says...
10:06pm Tue 18 Dec 12

I always thought that politicians (generally low rent types and self serving in my jaundiced opinion) and tax policies should be separated. Expert politically independent economists should decide on the best way to gather tax, not politicians looking to win votes. I've never understood why non-expert-in-anythi ng-politicians are considered the best people to decide on what our tax rates should be and who pays or benefits. ('Rule Britannia' fades up) I am lucky enough to pay the top rate tax and am more than happy to do so as our NHS, education system and public services are what makes me proud of this country and what makes this country, mainly Cornwall, a great place to live. (There's more to life than money, golf and sunny weather). And yes, I have known what it is to be poor and eligible to claim benefits, it's not desirable even if you're a shirker, so I would never blame someone for doing so if they really needed to. (Fade out 'Rule Britannia') Don't let politicians near our money! molesworth

ronedgcumbe says...
10:30pm Tue 18 Dec 12

Is It not expertly independent politically economists that are to blame for all the current problems. As usual with a Tory lead council it is the poor who foot the bill. At least we now know where the increased allowances is coming from ronedgcumbe

Gill Zella Martin 09 says...
6:38am Wed 19 Dec 12

Maybe we would be better represented by a more varied cross section of council leaders, some of whom have a vastly different financial status. The only time in my life I have claimed benefits is since my husband died and even then only council tax benefit, which I now am no longer entitled to and quite frankly that brings the benefit in itself of no longer being made to feel by some that I am a second rate citizen. Gill Zella Martin 09

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